My Take on the Illusion of Numbers

One of the oldest philosophical debates is on the idea on the reality of the concepts of numbers. That seems awfully silly at first glance. Why are numbers illusions? We use them all the time, not to mention mathematics contains so many things that are, well, true. But one of the arguments, going all the way back to Ancient Greece, is whether they exist naturally. Sure, we’ve created mathematics and like many tools humans have invented, it has helped with many things. But do they exist naturally?

Think of the number 2.

You’re either thinking of the written number 2 or the doubling of an object, say, 2 apples.

The written number 2 is just a symbol we have created for two, but isn’t actually 2 itself. When you think of a wolf, you don’t imagine the word: “Wolf” itself, you think of an image of that wolf itself. Natural things have a depiction, ideas do not. There is no physical and natural manifestation of an idea like democracy because it is an artificially created concept by humans to define an advanced idea.

If you’re thinking of 2 apples, or some other doubling of an object, that doesn’t quite work either. You’re thinking of apples and there happens to be 2 of them, but it’s not the natural representation of “two-ness”, it’s just apples. Plus, what about something like 2 meters? That’s a form of “two-ness” that isn’t two objects but a measurement that can be applied to anything that matches, since we also invented measuring.

Not to mention math is a system made by humans TO work. So 2 + 2 only = 4 because we said so and because we want it too. If we switched 2 and 3 on the number line, 3 + 3 would = 4. If we used binary, 2 wouldn’t exist and would in fact be 10.

So when someone says it’s as natural, it’s really not. They’re using a language that was invented and taught to them. Animals may eat 2 apples but that doesn’t mean they’re, as far as we know, aware of the number 2 or using it for anything. If humans were never here, 2 would never have existed.

My final point is that ultimately, 2 is a value and is therefore even more artificial. All value is artificial because we are ranking something based on opinion or artificial ideas. “Best-ness” doesn’t exist naturally, “rich” doesn’t exist naturally, these are all words and phrases with relative meanings sure, but also real concepts. They’re just only real because we assigned artificial ideas to them. 2 is also a value, you’ve even likely equated numbers as a value in math class at one point.

But remember, the idea of 2 not being natural does not mean it isn’t real. Of course it is. I’ve typed it several times now. But it’s artificial just like language.



About EmperorTigerstar

I make a YouTube account that makes map animations of historical events such as World War II or the Civil War.
This entry was posted in Uncategorized. Bookmark the permalink.

1 Response to My Take on the Illusion of Numbers

  1. Advocatus Diaboli says:

    Numbers do exist. Obviously they aren’t an objective reality, they aren’t objects, and you can’t treat them like chairs or tomatoes. Numbers are a concept, and as a concept, they use human minds to leave marks of their existence in real world. But the thing is that the concept of numbers can change reality because originally reality created numbers in human mind.

    Let me explain. First of all, I must say that counting is not the original way of measuring quantity. The original (and simpler) one was comparing. But if you are comparing things, you analyse only one side of their being. When you are comparing two groups of things by size, you forget about their colors, weight, purpose and so on. But doing so means that you lose the difference between a bunch of chairs and some tomatoes. Their images in your mind are disfigured, but still extracted from reality. Therefore, if you compare these images, you will compare charasteristics of real things.

    But wait. If we compare one thing to another, and then that second thing to the third one, we won’t necessarily need to compare the first and the third. And there’s a specific group of things which is easily compared to – a single thing. That’s how 1 came into existence and became a core of numbers concept. And then, later, groups of 1s got their own names: two, three, four… And thus began the history of natural numbers, predecessors of every other kind of numbers.

    Conclusion: numbers were taken from reality, but they don’t exist like real things. The need to compare quantities resulted in a specific quantity being chosen as a base unit of measurement. This quantity was named ‘one’ and other units were derived from it.

Leave a Reply

Fill in your details below or click an icon to log in: Logo

You are commenting using your account. Log Out /  Change )

Google photo

You are commenting using your Google account. Log Out /  Change )

Twitter picture

You are commenting using your Twitter account. Log Out /  Change )

Facebook photo

You are commenting using your Facebook account. Log Out /  Change )

Connecting to %s